Voice of the Youth
| Date: | August 1988 |
|---|---|
| Organisation: | Communist Youth Union of Ireland (Marxist-Leninist) |
| View: | View Document |
| Discuss: | Comments on this document |
| Subjects: | Anglo-Irish Agreement, 1985 |
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Commentary From The Cedar Lounge Revolution
4th January 2010
Many thanks to PJ - who has been a tireless support to the Archive - for the following to start off 2010…as he notes the pamphlet, a very interesting one…
[is] from the Communist Youth Union of Ireland (Marxist-Leninist) published in August 1988. The CYUI(ML) was the youth section of the CPI(ML).
I picked this one up in Cork city during a public distribution of it. I suppose they must have given out a few hundred?
The pamphlet was distributed by the two Cork CPI(ML) regulars who were always active around the city with public meetings, street speaking and taking ‘ML Weekly’ around the pubs. Cork CPI(ML) had their own newsletter (even one in Gaeilge if memory serves me right?).
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By: WorldbyStorm Mon, 04 Jan 2010 20:45:13
In reply to Starkadder.
Wasn’t avant-garde classical music well represented in the CPB (ML), or is that my imagination?
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By: WorldbyStorm Mon, 04 Jan 2010 20:57:25
I should add you’re absolutely right, my bad Garibaldy. the AIA was indeed dated 1985.
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By: Starkadder Mon, 04 Jan 2010 20:59:13
In reply to WorldbyStorm.
Cardew was in the Communist Party of England
(Marxist-Leninist) in the 70s, but I couldn’t say if his
membership was representative of any
Maoist/avant-garde link in the UK.
Robert Wyatt did a song about Mao ,but I’m not
sure if he was an actual Maoist at any point.
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By: jc Mon, 04 Jan 2010 21:07:54
In reply to WorldbyStorm.
By coincidence, I recently bought Robert Wyatt’s “Greatest Misses” CD and was listening to it last night, He has a song (“The Age of the Self, orginally on “Old Rottenhat”) which contains the following couplet:
While Martin Jacques and Robert Maxwell play with printer’s ink
The workers ’round the world still die for Rio Tinto Zinc
Clearly not a fan of Marxism Today, whatever about Mao…
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By: ejh Mon, 04 Jan 2010 21:27:46
While Martin Jacques and Robert Maxwell play with printer’s ink
The workers ’round the world still die for Rio Tinto Zinc
Gawd
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By: Phil Mon, 04 Jan 2010 22:14:42
Chorus:
And it seems to me, if we forget our roots and where we stand
Our movement will disintegrate like castles built on sand
Bad things happen when people who habitually think in long words & abstractions try to write “accessibly”.
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By: splinteredsunrise Tue, 05 Jan 2010 00:35:00
I seem to remember Vipond going into business – something to do with motorcycles…
What strikes me about this whole international tendency – and their mother party in Canada is still very much active – is what a charismatic figure Hardial Bains evidently was. Wherever he went in the world, he left a small party behind him. And not only that, but a small party whose literature read as if translated second-hand from Russian via Punjabi.
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By: WorldbyStorm Tue, 05 Jan 2010 07:28:47
The name Johnny Appleseed springs to mind… An ML Johnny Appleseed. But there’s no doubting he had a fierce charisma to be able to do what whole formations weren’t able to in identical circumstances.
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By: Jim Monaghan Tue, 05 Jan 2010 13:07:32
On a footnote, the Maoists like some Trotskyists tended to be sensitve to National struggles.In South Africa they supported the PAC who were more aware (if that is the right word) of the different national groups amongst the oppressed. (Zulu, Xhosa etc.).
A lot of the African states are artificial inventions of Imperialism
The Trotskyists tended to support the Black Consciousness movement.
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By: ejh Tue, 05 Jan 2010 14:26:18
In reply to Phil.
Do you think he meant “in”?
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By: Dr. X Tue, 05 Jan 2010 15:47:38
>>>A lot of the African states are artificial inventions of Imperialism
And?
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By: Jim Monaghan Tue, 05 Jan 2010 17:13:57
This leaves problematic legacies with national groups being in 2 or more countries.
I prefer national groups or groupings to tribes which has conotations.
Funnily Samalia is the only one without minorities and it is the most divided.
I don’t think any of the new regimes have successfully dealt with this. The Ethiopians reverted back quick quickly in spite of a good start afer overthrowing Mengistu.
I think pretending that there are not problems actually accentuates them.
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By: Starkadder Tue, 05 Jan 2010 17:51:00
In reply to Jim Monaghan.
So you think Rosa Luxemburg might have had a point in
saying Marxists shouldn’t get in involved with nationalist
movements ?
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By: PJ Cullen Wed, 06 Jan 2010 06:39:40
Anyone got a copy of the ‘Necessity for change’ pamphlet by H. Bains?
It was published in Dublin in 1969 by The Internationalists
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By: Jim Monaghan Wed, 06 Jan 2010 10:19:39
Quite the reverse of Luxemburgs point. I feel that to ignore National struggles is a great danger.I feel that the struggle of oppressed nations becomes part of the greater struggle.
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By: Baku26 Wed, 06 Jan 2010 19:06:49
I think DV might now be in Canada.
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By: WorldbyStorm Wed, 06 Jan 2010 19:29:19
In reply to PJ Cullen.
I wish I did PJ. I took a bit of a shine to his work reading the doc in the Archive from the 1990s or so when he returned to Dublin.
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By: Neues aus den Archiven der radikalen (und nicht so radikalen) Linken « Entdinglichung Mon, 11 Jan 2010 13:29:53
[…] (1981) * League for a Workers’ Vanguard / Workers’ League – 1969 to c.1978 (1969-1978) * Voice of the Youth – Communist Youth Union of Ireland (Marxist-Leninist) – 1988 […]
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By: Hobbes Tue, 02 Feb 2010 18:20:53
Hey,
I’m starting a new socialist blog called Rosa’s Ghost. I
was hoping you might add it to your links page. It would be a great
help. Thanks in advance.
http://rosasghost.wordpress.com/
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By: WorldbyStorm Tue, 02 Feb 2010 19:39:55
In reply to Hobbes.
Okay…
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