Advance, No. 22
| Date: | 1976 |
|---|---|
| Organisation: | Socialist Party of Ireland [1970] |
| Publication: | Advance |
| Issue: | Number 22 July - August 1976 |
| Type: | Publication Issue |
| View: | View Document |
| Discuss: | Comments on this document |
| Subjects: | Housing and Homelessness National Wages Agreements, 1970s |
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Commentary From The Cedar Lounge Revolution
21st November 2011
This issue of Advance from 1976 is, like the other copy in the Archive, a well produced document from the Socialist Party of Ireland, a relatively small orthodox Marxist formation which split from Official Sinn Féin in the early 1970s.
It covers a wide variety of topics from the then recent rejection of a national wage agreement by ICTU, unemployed marches. There is a focus on Tallaght and in international news it looks at ‘Argentina Communists [who] fight on’ and Cyprus.
On page 6 there is under the ‘Socialism’ column a report on a ‘new residential district at Berlin-Buch in the German Democratic Republic’ where ’48 of the flats were handed over to severely disabled people’ and the design of the interiors finalised with them. There’s another short piece on ‘Religious Freedom in the USSR’ and a photograph of the first Aeroflot jet to have ‘transited Shannon’ that year.
There is a Socialist Party statement on Squatting and the Housing Crisis and a short piece on ‘Unity and the Class Struggle’ where the party states:
The policy of the Socialist Party stated simply is: to organise the working class in the Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland; to lead the struggle by the working class to win political power and at the same time to work with all democratic and anti-monopoly forces to win and retain democratic freedoms and to fight for maximum unity against nationalism and sectarianism.
And…
The Socialist Party recognises the existing reality of the two states in Ireland. We see no useful purpose being served furthering divisions along the lines of ethnic or national origin and will work to bring about a consciousness in the working class of the main division of society - that is the class division between the capitalist class and the working class.
There is also a revealing snippet on page 2 under the Red Herring column where it notes:
Latest defection from the “United Ireland Socialist Republicanism” is the historian C Desmond Greaves. At a recent seminar he said ‘At least in in the 26 counties, the government structures which exist are independent and would allow for the establishment of socialism. Mind you. I am not saying you would find the going easy, but it would be possible.’ Thank you Mr. Greaves, we never expected it to be easy.
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By: Joe Tue, 28 Aug 2012 20:12:51
In reply to Eamonn F.
Thanks Eamonn F. Yes Dessie Hughes. Alive and kicking still, thank god. I remember Dessie telling me of a strike he was very involved in when he worked in Superquinn. And how Fergal Quinn thought nothing of calling personally to the house and talking to Dessie’s missus about the strike. He said Quinn had this paternalist approach where he thought he was friends with all his staff and that that sort of approach was kosher.
And I also remember an education session where Dessie gave us a talk on supermarkets and the tricks they use to get customers to spend as much as possible. That’s where I learned never to go supermarket shopping when you are hungry.
Just a couple of questions about the SPI:
Looking at that list of members you put up, did yis let any women join at all?
And fick me punk, are you telling us that Colin Farrell’s da was a founding member of the SPI?
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By: eamonnfarrell Tue, 28 Aug 2012 22:41:19
Well Mark P, maybe I’ve said too much already, but heck you may as well be shot for a sheep as a lamb! The SPI sure was a bit heavy on the old discipline.
Most members of the Socialist Party of Ireland or was it the Socialist Party at that stage, merged into the Democratic Socialist Party (DSP) along with members of the British and Irish Communist Party (BICO) and the Limerick Socialists. Some members used the opportunity to say goodbye to active politics. Very few if any left to join other parties. Although Seamus O’Brogain and Norman McGrath had already left to join the Communist Party of Ireland (CPI), over an internal party disagreement.
After the merger of the DSP into the Labour Party, some former SPI members joined the Workers Party (WP) or maybe it was Democratic Left (DL) by then. Jan O’Sullivan, Eamonn Maloney or Michael Conaghan were never in the SPI.
You are of course right, the SPI took a very active role in social campaigns for contraception, divorce and the right to choose etc,
as well as its main national activity of opposing nationalism, campaigning for the removal of Articles Two and Three and proposing a socialist alternative. To this end it played a leading role inSocialist Against Nationalism and the May Day Committee which organised relatively large marches and social activities on the actual May Day as opposed to the nearest Sunday, which had been common up to that time. Members were active on trades councils and in their individual unions as well as tenants associations.
It also took a very active part in community activity, running Advice Centers in local areas and campaigning on issues relevant to local communities. Its quite likely that during the 1977 General Election, had Ballymun been included with its natural urban neighbour of Dublin North West, instead of the almost rural North County Dublin, Eamon O’Brien would have been elected to the Dail. Even so, his performance of over 6% of the vote caused broadcaster Rodney Rice to ask Fine Gaels John Boland ‘Who are these guys”.
Apart from the founder members booted out of the Official Republican Movement, almost all new recruits to the SPI were people who had no previous affiliation to other political organisations or parties. Many were trade union or local community activists or people interested in social justice or socialism without nationalist attachments.
New members such as Des Hughes, Fergus Quinlan, Brian Farrell, Denis O’Connor, John Tierney, Clair O’Connor, Norman McGrath, Jean O’Connor, Brendan O’Sullivan, Larry Byrne, Bride McCarthy, Joe Davis and Tony McGarry to mention a few, brought a range of talent, ideas and energy, which allowed the party to punch way above its weight. Perhaps its strong point was that it always new it was punching above its weight, so when the opportunity came to merge with like minded activists and create a larger broader party, it took the opportunity to do so.
Perhaps its weak point was its demand of total commitment to party discipline, even in matters that were of a purely personal and private nature.
Yes Joe, as you can see there were some female members. Even one on the Central Committee, whose name I won’t mention as I am not sure of her current situation. But just as now, there were not enough women in the SPI. Nothing new there.
As regards Colin Farrell’s dad being a founder member of the
SPI, I’m afraid I can’t comment.
Well Mark P, maybe I’ve said too much already, but heck you may as well be shot for a sheep as a lamb! The SPI sure was a bit heavy on the old discipline.
Most members of the Socialist Party of Ireland or was it the Socialist Party at that stage, merged into the Democratic Socialist Party (DSP) along with members of the British and Irish Communist Party (BICO) and the Limerick Socialists. Some members used the opportunity to say goodbye to active politics. Very few if any left to join other parties. Although Seamus O’Brogain and Norman McGrath had already left to join the Communist Party of Ireland (CPI), over an internal party disagreement.
After the merger of the DSP into the Labour Party, some former SPI members joined the Workers Party (WP) or maybe it was Democratic Left (DL) by then. Jan O’Sullivan, Eamonn Maloney or Michael Conaghan were never in the SPI.
You are of course right, the SPI took a very active role in social campaigns for contraception, divorce and the right to choose etc,
as well as its main national activity of opposing nationalism, campaigning for the removal of Articles Two and Three and proposing a socialist alternative. To this end it played a leading role inSocialist Against Nationalism and the May Day Committee which organised relatively large marches and social activities on the actual May Day as opposed to the nearest Sunday, which had been common up to that time. Members were active on trades councils and in their individual unions as well as tenants associations.
It also took a very active part in community activity, running Advice Centers in local areas and campaigning on issues relevant to local communities. Its quite likely that during the 1977 General Election, had Ballymun been included with its natural urban neighbour of Dublin North West, instead of the almost rural North County Dublin, Eamon O’Brien would have been elected to the Dail. Even so, his performance of over 6% of the vote caused broadcaster Rodney Rice to ask Fine Gaels John Boland ‘Who are these guys”.
Apart from the founder members booted out of the Official Republican Movement, almost all new recruits to the SPI were people who had no previous affiliation to other political organisations or parties. Many were trade union or local community activists or people interested in social justice or socialism without nationalist attachments.
New members such as Des Hughes, Fergus Quinlan, Brian Farrell, Denis O’Connor, John Tierney, Clair O’Connor, Norman McGrath, Jean O’Connor, Brendan O’Sullivan, Larry Byrne, Bride McCarthy, Joe Davis and Tony McGarry to mention a few, brought a range of talent, ideas and energy, which allowed the party to punch way above its weight. Perhaps its strong point was that it always new it was punching above its weight, so when the opportunity came to merge with like minded activists and create a larger broader party, it took the opportunity to do so.
Perhaps its weak point was its demand of total commitment to party discipline, even in matters that were of a purely personal and private nature.
Yes Joe, as you can see there were some female members. Even one on the Central Committee, whose name I won’t mention as I am not sure of her current situation. But just as now, there were not enough women in the SPI. Nothing new there.
As regards Colin Farrell’s dad being a founder member of the
SPI, I’m afraid I can’t comment.
Well Mark P, maybe I’ve said too much already, but heck you may as well be shot for a sheep as a lamb! The SPI sure was a bit heavy on the old discipline.
Most members of the Socialist Party of Ireland or was it the Socialist Party at that stage, merged into the Democratic Socialist Party (DSP) along with members of the British and Irish Communist Party (BICO) and the Limerick Socialists. Some members used the opportunity to say goodbye to active politics. Very few if any left to join other parties. Although Seamus O’Brogain and Norman McGrath had already left to join the Communist Party of Ireland (CPI), over an internal party disagreement.
After the merger of the DSP into the Labour Party, some former SPI members joined the Workers Party (WP) or maybe it was Democratic Left (DL) by then. Jan O’Sullivan, Eamonn Maloney or Michael Conaghan were never in the SPI.
You are of course right, the SPI took a very active role in social campaigns for contraception, divorce and the right to choose etc,
as well as its main national activity of opposing nationalism, campaigning for the removal of Articles Two and Three and proposing a socialist alternative. To this end it played a leading role inSocialist Against Nationalism and the May Day Committee which organised relatively large marches and social activities on the actual May Day as opposed to the nearest Sunday, which had been common up to that time. Members were active on trades councils and in their individual unions as well as tenants associations.
It also took a very active part in community activity, running Advice Centers in local areas and campaigning on issues relevant to local communities. Its quite likely that during the 1977 General Election, had Ballymun been included with its natural urban neighbour of Dublin North West, instead of the almost rural North County Dublin, Eamon O’Brien would have been elected to the Dail. Even so, his performance of over 6% of the vote caused broadcaster Rodney Rice to ask Fine Gaels John Boland ‘Who are these guys”.
Apart from the founder members booted out of the Official Republican Movement, almost all new recruits to the SPI were people who had no previous affiliation to other political organisations or parties. Many were trade union or local community activists or people interested in social justice or socialism without nationalist attachments.
New members such as Des Hughes, Fergus Quinlan, Brian Farrell, Denis O’Connor, John Tierney, Clair O’Connor, Norman McGrath, Jean O’Connor, Brendan O’Sullivan, Larry Byrne, Bride McCarthy, Joe Davis and Tony McGarry to mention a few, brought a range of talent, ideas and energy, which allowed the party to punch way above its weight. Perhaps its strong point was that it always new it was punching above its weight, so when the opportunity came to merge with like minded activists and create a larger broader party, it took the opportunity to do so.
Perhaps its weak point was its demand of total commitment to party discipline, even in matters that were of a purely personal and private nature.
Yes Joe, as you can see there were some female members. Even one on the Central Committee, whose name I won’t mention as I am not sure of her current situation. But just as now, there were not enough women in the SPI. Nothing new there.
As regards Colin Farrell’s dad being a founder member of the
SPI, I’m afraid I can’t comment.
Well Mark P, maybe I’ve said too much already, but heck you may as well be shot for a sheep as a lamb! The SPI sure was a bit heavy on the old discipline.
Most members of the Socialist Party of Ireland or was it the Socialist Party at that stage, merged into the Democratic Socialist Party (DSP) along with members of the British and Irish Communist Party (BICO) and the Limerick Socialists. Some members used the opportunity to say goodbye to active politics. Very few if any left to join other parties. Although Seamus O’Brogain and Norman McGrath had already left to join the Communist Party of Ireland (CPI), over an internal party disagreement.
After the merger of the DSP into the Labour Party, some former SPI members joined the Workers Party (WP) or maybe it was Democratic Left (DL) by then. Jan O’Sullivan, Eamonn Maloney or Michael Conaghan were never in the SPI.
You are of course right, the SPI took a very active role in social campaigns for contraception, divorce and the right to choose etc,
as well as its main national activity of opposing nationalism, campaigning for the removal of Articles Two and Three and proposing a socialist alternative. To this end it played a leading role inSocialist Against Nationalism and the May Day Committee which organised relatively large marches and social activities on the actual May Day as opposed to the nearest Sunday, which had been common up to that time. Members were active on trades councils and in their individual unions as well as tenants associations.
It also took a very active part in community activity, running Advice Centers in local areas and campaigning on issues relevant to local communities. Its quite likely that during the 1977 General Election, had Ballymun been included with its natural urban neighbour of Dublin North West, instead of the almost rural North County Dublin, Eamon O’Brien would have been elected to the Dail. Even so, his performance of over 6% of the vote caused broadcaster Rodney Rice to ask Fine Gaels John Boland ‘Who are these guys”.
Apart from the founder members booted out of the Official Republican Movement, almost all new recruits to the SPI were people who had no previous affiliation to other political organisations or parties. Many were trade union or local community activists or people interested in social justice or socialism without nationalist attachments.
New members such as Des Hughes, Fergus Quinlan, Brian Farrell, Denis O’Connor, John Tierney, Clair O’Connor, Norman McGrath, Jean O’Connor, Brendan O’Sullivan, Larry Byrne, Bride McCarthy, Joe Davis and Tony McGarry to mention a few, brought a range of talent, ideas and energy, which allowed the party to punch way above its weight. Perhaps its strong point was that it always new it was punching above its weight, so when the opportunity came to merge with like minded activists and create a larger broader party, it took the opportunity to do so.
Perhaps its weak point was its demand of total commitment to party discipline, even in matters that were of a purely personal and private nature.
Yes Joe, as you can see there were some female members. Even one on the Central Committee, whose name I won’t mention as I am not sure of her current situation. But just as now, there were not enough women in the SPI. Nothing new there.
As regards Colin Farrell’s dad being a founder member of the
SPI, I’m afraid I can’t comment.
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By: eamonnfarrell Tue, 28 Aug 2012 23:02:54
Double whammy there Moderator, will you please correct. Thanks
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By: Mark P Tue, 28 Aug 2012 23:14:08
In reply to eamonnfarrell.
A triple whammy in fact Eamonn, but no less welcome for that.
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By: WorldbyStorm Wed, 29 Aug 2012 06:27:59
Thanks a million EF. This is very useful information for those of us interested in the development of the left.
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By: Joe Wed, 29 Aug 2012 19:22:46
In reply to eamonnfarrell.
Thanks Eamonn, great stuff.
“…total commitment to party discipline, even in matters that were of a purely personal and private nature.” Wow. That sounds a little scary!
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By: Eamonn F Wed, 29 Aug 2012 20:24:32
In reply to WorldbyStorm.
Bueno.
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