No to the Property Tax
| Date: | 2012 |
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| Organisation: | United Left Alliance |
Contributor:
Info | Clare Daly |
| Type: | Poster |
| View: | View Document |
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3rd January 2022
This poster joins a range of other documents in the Archive relating to the United Left Alliance. As the Archive notes:
The United Left Alliance was a loose electoral grouping of a number of left political parties and independents which contested the 2011 General Election. Its constituent elements included the Socialist Party, People Before Profit and the Workers and Unemployed Action Group. Five candidates were elected at the 2011 General Election. In 2012 the WUAG withdrew from the ULA and in 2013 the SP left, leaving it essentially defunct.
However it is also important as it is a document from the Property Tax Campaign .
Notably this poster was issued by Clare Daly TD, by then an independent TD having formerly been elected as a Socialist Party TD.
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By: Bobd Mon, 03 Jan 2022 21:27:37
In reply to Alibaba.
An owner-occupier democracy is an admirable liberal objective, an effective basis for agitation and a secure barrier against socialism
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By: EWI Tue, 04 Jan 2022 02:58:05
In reply to Bobd.
An owner-occupier democracy is an admirable liberal objective, an effective basis for agitation and a secure barrier against socialism
Getting rid of the petty landlord class will do a lot to remove that ‘barrier against socialism’, which already exists out there. Even something tangential like long-term security of tenure would surely be something radical, worthwhile and easy to argue for?
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By: Alibaba Tue, 04 Jan 2022 07:18:27
In reply to EWI.
Fair enough, EWI, we can all see the value of supporting something radical, especially when it addresses the understandable concerns of others.
WbS I see the points you are making, and like the reference to allowances etc., though I don’t fully agree that we shouldn’t argue against the home tax.
Bobd, one of the reasons for the revolutionary left to make headway in today’s world is a failure to engage with those resisting austerity measures like the Property Tax here by keeping fighting campaigns as broad, diverse elements in a democratic manner united in fighting the common enemy- capitalism.
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By: WorldbyStorm Tue, 04 Jan 2022 09:25:14
In reply to Alibaba.
I think my position would be I fully agree with you re a right to housing and a home but that that doesn’t necessitate a right for house or home to be untaxed. Or put it another way, I would never want someone put out of their home over taxation but that the state/polity/community has a right to expect either during or end of tendency (contingent on ability to pay in the former case) some degree of tax. I’ve a deeper problem with private ownership in any case and feel shared ownership is perhaps a better way to go in any case. There’s a further issue as to what constitutes private property and so on which is very interesting.
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By: Alibaba Tue, 04 Jan 2022 12:06:41
In reply to Alibaba.
Many topics there, worthy for consideration. Also that the property tax is due for payment by those who own (not rent from state authorities) a residential property. Yet when people protested against this tax which they rightly saw as double taxation, and thousands mobilised in anger, the revolutionary left alone called for its non-payment. The pertinent issue is this: which side are we on? The fact that the battle wasn’t won doesn’t make it wrong. It radicalised many people.
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By: WorldbyStorm Tue, 04 Jan 2022 12:42:27
In reply to Alibaba.
I guess it’s like any campaign, it can radicalise but it can go in different directions of radicalisation. For example some of the freeman stuff which ran parallel to the campaigns certainly got a bit of a boost from them – doesn’t make the campaigns wrong but one has to have front and centre the fact that one’s politics does require equity up to and including taxation of property. Granted that’s difficult in a campaign but absolutely necessary so that people don’t feel later they’ve been let down or lied to.
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By: Bobd Wed, 05 Jan 2022 02:09:20
My point was not that the left should not be involved in agitation against policies that bear on the working class but that it should never shirk its responsibility to educate. It was reasonable to oppose the the “Property Tax” as extra burden on the homes of working people but for a significant minority of the population, houses are also a form of capital accumulation which should be taxed and we should not have shirked that issue. Actual property taxes such as CGT and inheritance taxes treat such capital accumulation fairly benignly
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